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RAID 1 sau mirroring fara controller dedicat

Started by IceCub, 03 November 2006, 19:17

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IceCub

Salutare,
Am un amic care m-a rugat sa-l ajut cu o problema.
Se da:
- placa de baza cu chipset i915 + ICH5 (sau ICH6 - nu mai stiu exact). Placa de baza nu stie nici un fel de RAID si nu exista posibilitatea de a achizitiona un controller PCI.
- 2 buc. HDD SATA
- Windows XP Professional

Se cere: RAID 1 prin metode software, sau orice solutie de mirroring (real time) a datelor pe al doilea HDD.

Din cate m-am documentat, Windows XP nu stie sa faca asa ceva de capul lui (doar Win 2K/2003 Server stiu asa ceva).
Are cineva vre-o solutie pentru aceasta problema? Vre-un soft 3rd party?
Multumesc anticipat.

icsfails

Daca nu il deranjeaza "hack-ul":

http://www.vttoth.com/mirror.htm

L-am facut o data si chiar merge
The two basic principles of Windows system administration:

* For minor problems, reboot
* For major problems, reinstall

IceCub

Quote from: icsfailsDaca nu il deranjeaza "hack-ul"
Nu cred.

Mersi mult, am sa pasez sugestia.  =D>

SoNic

Solutia aia se refera la activarea "dynamic disc" sub WinXP Home. In WinXP Profesional Dynamic Disc este disponibil fara "hack". Pertea nasoala este ca nu poate boota usor de pe matricea RAID facuta software (de aia solutiile RAID au un chip de boot/bios) - este posibil insa, vezi citatul de mai jos.
Personal folosesc un HDD SCSI de 10k pentru SO si restul sunt 2 HDD in RAID0 realizate cu Dynamic Disc.
Citez din help-ul WinXP:
QuoteDynamic disks and volumesDynamic disks provide features that basic disks do not, such as the ability to create volumes that span multiple disks (spanned and striped volumes), and the ability to create fault tolerant volumes (mirrored and RAID-5 volumes). All volumes on dynamic disks are known as dynamic volumes.

There are five types of dynamic volumes: simple, spanned, striped, mirrored, and RAID-5. Mirrored and RAID-5 volumes are fault tolerant and are available only on computers running Windows 2000 Server, Windows 2000 Advanced Server, Windows 2000 Datacenter Server, or Windows XP. However, you can use a computer running Windows XP Professional to create mirrored and RAID-5 volumes on these operating systems.

Regardless of whether the dynamic disk uses the master boot record (MBR) or GUID partition table (GPT) partition style, you can create up to 2,000 dynamic volumes per disk group, although the recommended number of dynamic volumes is 32 or less per disk.

For information about managing dynamic volumes, see Manage dynamic volumes.

Limitations of dynamic disks and dynamic volumes
When using dynamic volumes, the following limitations apply:

When installing Windows XP Professional. If a dynamic volume is created from unallocated space on a dynamic disk, you cannot install Windows XP Professional on that volume. However, you can extend the volume (if it is a simple or spanned volume). This setup limitation occurs because Windows XP Professional Setup recognizes only dynamic volumes that have an entry in the partition table.
Portable computers. Dynamic disks are not supported on portable computers, removable disks, detachable disks that use Universal Serial Bus (USB) or IEEE 1394 (also called FireWire) interfaces, or on disks connected to shared SCSI buses. If you are using a portable computer and right-click a disk in the graphical or list view in Disk Management, you will not see the option to convert the disk to dynamic.
Dual-boot computers. Dynamic volumes (and the data they contain) cannot be accessed by, or created on, computers running MS-DOS, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows Millennium Edition, Windows NT 4.0, or Windows XP Home Edition that are configured to dual-boot with Windows XP Professional or Windows XP. If you want computers running these operating systems to be able to access the data, store the data on basic volumes instead. For information about basic volumes, see Basic disks and volumes.
When extending a volume. If a basic volume is converted to dynamic (by converting a basic disk to dynamic), it may or may not have an entry in the partition table depending on whether that volume was a system or boot partition. If the converted volume was a system or boot partition it retains an entry in the partition table. You can install Windows XP Professional on the volume, but you cannot extend it. If the converted volume was not a system or boot volume it does not have an entry in the partition table. You cannot install Windows XP Professional on the volume, but you can extend it.
On Windows 2000, volumes converted from partitions have an entry in the partition table. On Windows XP Professional, volumes converted from partitions do not have an entry in the partition table unless the partitions were system or boot partitions. In Disk Management, you can see if a volume has an entry in the partition table by right-clicking the volume. If Extend Volume is disabled, the volume has an entry in the partition table.

You can install Windows XP Professional only on simple and mirrored dynamic volumes, and these volumes must have entries in the partition table (which means that these volumes were system or boot volumes).
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Marmota

Quote from: IceCub on 03 November 2006, 19:17
nu exista posibilitatea de a achizitiona un controller PCI.


ce inseamna ca nu exista....nu se doreste, nu mai sunt sloturi libere PCI sau nu exista surse financiare? pt ca sincer cea mai buna ideea e un controller PCI.....eu am unu  si merg ok hdd-urile sata (nu le tin in raid ca nu am de ce).


PS. uff....Sonic...tot cu SCSI ai ramas....stii ca nu toti ne permitem :P si da stim toti ca e bun

IceCub

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Quote from: Marmota on 06 November 2006, 10:40
Quote from: IceCub on 03 November 2006, 19:17
nu exista posibilitatea de a achizitiona un controller PCI.
ce inseamna ca nu exista....nu se doreste, nu mai sunt sloturi libere PCI sau nu exista surse financiare?

Inseamna companie romaneasca, cu serviciul de achizitii "praf" si conducere "varza": nu ma intereseaza, te descurci cu ce ai, nu mai sunt bani!

Am vorbit cu amicul meu si mi-a spus ca a reusit cu solutia propusa de icsfails.
Multumesc tuturor celor care au postat.

cradud

a mers nitel cu cantec dar a mers si functioneaza ok. multumesc
p.s nu stiam de forumul acesta intram tot pe chip de acuma schimb si eu ......

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